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Subject:Where is Judas Iscariot?
Time:03:05 pm
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In all four of the gospels, there is a common thread concerning Judas Iscariot: none of the penholders allow you to forget for a moment that Judas betrayed Jesus.

Little is known of him beyond this fact. His name 'Iscariot' hints that he was a Palestinian (thus the only non-Galilean among the apostles), and we see from John 12:6 that he was a greedy man. "This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief; and had the bag, and bare what was put therein." He sold Jesus for thirty pieces of silver, was overcome with grief, and he killed himself. Some accounts he is hung and others his bowels are spilt across a field. Most scholars agree that both are possible and that Judas fell while attempting to hang himself. Some simply believe that he had hung himself and his body was later removed and thrown into a ravine.

What people disagree on is where he is now. Most people believe Judas Iscariot is tormented eternally in the Hell described in Luke 16:23-24 and Revelations 20:10, 14-15. However, there are those who believe he's at home in glory.

Matthew 27:3-5 reads (my own emphasis in bold), "Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

"Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.

"And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself."

Judas Iscariot admits he has sinned, confesses Christ's perfection in a sense, and repents of what he did. Aren't those the steps most of us make towards salvation? While Judas' betrayl is a horrible thing, yes it did bring about the death and resurrection of Christ- something Christians galore rejoice about. While fueled by worldly things, Judas had an unwitting hand in one of the greatest events of all time; and he still seems to repent for what he did. The evidence against him seems to be in Acts and Revelation. Most perceive scripture in Revelation to imply that the twelve apostles are gathered in Heaven with Christ- but Acts 1:16-26 shows how Matthias was chosen to join the apostles in place of the departed Judas.

So... any opinions on where Judas Iscariot is spending the rest of eternity?
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ddam
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Time:2005-01-19 03:04 am (UTC)
well, if he really did commit suicide, then he had done his final selfish sinful act, and took his own life. so it is my belief that he isn't in heaven.
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lillybeloved
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Time:2005-01-19 06:05 am (UTC)
you believe suicide makes it impossible to get into heaven?
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ddam
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Time:2005-01-19 06:53 am (UTC)
well, you can't repent after acting out your final sin. but honestly, i've been having thoughts about heaven that a lot may view as ridiculous.
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lillybeloved
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Time:2005-01-19 01:11 pm (UTC)
I don't think that's necesairly true.
excuse my graphicness, but someone who jumps off a roof has a few seconds to repent, and someone who overdoses still has a few hours. plus suicide is often acted out in times of mental illness, and I don't think we can be held accountable (or that we are held accountable) for mental illness.
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mc_preacherboy
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Time:2005-01-19 03:28 pm (UTC)
Call me an idealistic dreamer, but I've always put stock in the old "once in grace, always in grace" idea- that once you're saved, nothing can really take that away... even offing yourself.
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lillybeloved
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Time:2005-01-20 05:37 am (UTC)
i like that point of view too.
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ddam
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Time:2005-01-21 06:15 am (UTC)
touche.
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astrodoom
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Time:2005-01-19 05:16 pm (UTC)
I seem to remember somewhere hearing that it said somewhere that he has only lost one of his chosen. And that one referred to Judas or something. I'll have to go ask my Mom. I think it was she who told me.
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